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To this day the business receives a rating of 4.5 out of 5 and that score has been calculated on 127 reviews.
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This Catering is included in the category of Lebanese restaurant.
Absolutely delicious food!
Ray's in Bayers Lake offers the best Lebanese food in Halifax and with incredible value. The portion sizes are huge...can't wait for our next visit there.
Service
Great food, great service. Nice spacious air conditioned atmosphere. Voted best falafel the last six hundred years or so. Vegan friendly.
The best meat shawarma ever..must try
Amazing food and lots of it! The owner is the most amazing guy and so good to his repeat customers! Lifelong customers here!
Super friendly staff, amazing food, clean and fast! I'd highly recommend Ray's!
Best place to eat in the city love the food and the staff and owner are very friendly
Always stop for a shawarma here when in Bayer's Lake. Even the small size is huge!
The restaurant has the ratings for a reason. Generous, tasty and reasonable priced. Would always come back
Huge portions of very tasty food
The only gluten free donair meat that I have found in Halifax. I have found that I have to be extra clear about how I want it prepared, but it is well worth it!
Rays consistently won best falafel so many years in a row in the Coasts "best of" competition that they permanently retired the category and awarded it to Ray. That should tell you something. Ray treats every customer like family, and is always in a good mood. Best Lebanese food in Halifax.
Very neat place with outstanding friendly staf. We ordered both chicken and beef shawrma plates and we couldn't have been more satisfied. Food was delicious and they were generous enough to fill the plates with different types of rice, salads and of course meat. Price is reasonable and I do recommend Ray's.
Delicious food! Big portions! Friendly staff. Always worth a visit. I can make 2 meals out of the Chicken Shwarma Plate. Mmm.
(Translated) very good food (Original) طعام جيد جدا
My experience happened at the Dartmouth location on Saturday June 13 at 11:30am. Entered the restaurant with my partner and Ray was sitting at a table relaxing as there were no other customers. I was told that men aren't served on Saturdays and only women are. I was confused and asked him to repeat himself. He did and then told me to get out and leave "the woman". I was absolutely appalled and started to walk out with my partner. He then said he was joking and tried to get us to stay. I told him it was an awful joke and we were leaving and was told off on the way out. I will never step foot in this place again. Absolutely disgusting behavior.
Service
Still best of Halifax.
Always great. But portions and friendly staff
Amazing food
Never going back, bad attitude poor service.
This was a giant plate of delicious food for under 11$. I don't know why I've driven past so many times and not gone in. The staff was very friendly and happy to help me decide what to get. Can't wait to go back again!
Service was fast, prices were decent. I ordered a falafel plate which was a little salty but still tasty with good portion sizes.
If you enjoy fresh delicious Lebanese food in a clean, friendly and welcoming environment look no further. Hands down the best Lebanese experience in eastern Canada You will not be disappointed ! Thanks again !
The portions here are super generous for the price and the food itself is really good! I have not had a lot of labenese food myself, but of the few places I've tried, this is definitely the best!
This is so tasty and the presentation is so attractive!
Food is great and helpings are generous.
Whoa!! So glad we play tried this place. Delicious fresh food in huge portions for good price which is hard to find in Bayers Lake. We had a regular chicken shawarma which was humongous and beef Shawarma plate which was massive and so varied. Will be back.
The best showerma in Halifax
Still the *best* beef shawarma in town. Location is harder to get to than the one in Scotia Square, which unfortunately closed. But super good food, large portions and a good size restaurant.
The staff were awesome! Soo friendly. The food amazing, value was really good. I didnt leave hungry thats for sure. I will mos def be back.
Nice people, good food, large portions.
This is a great place and the food is amazing. When I come here for lunch, I usually get the chicken Shawarma plate with taboulli, turnip etc. The food has always been fresh, the place is clean and usually busy around lunch time, so give yourself some extra time. The prices are at a reasonable point and you get alot of food when you order a plate. If you're in Bayers Lake and looking for a great place for lunch, head to Ray's and you won't be disappointed.
Great food, consistent quality, service with a smile.
Good portions and flavorful food. Service is good too
Very bad food.we ordered take out and the food was cold . The potatoes were so dry and hard that no one could chew. Very bad service.waste of money never order food from this place. This place does not even deserve 1 star
This place has amazing Chicken Schwarma, and the Donair is tasty and gluten free!
Delicious and well priced. Better value than the competition!
Best Lebanese food around! And very friendly service
Excellent place to eat great food friendly staff who could ask for more great prices to this is a must eat
Really big portions and tremendously friendly and courteous staff. Wonderful experience!
went to go there today for lunch. when I walked in Ray was ringing in a customer at the register and giving him his change back .without washing his hands he turned to me , wiped his mouth with his bare hand and then proceeded to ask me what I would like. I obviously did not order anything and just walked out. I don't normally write reviews but this infuriated me as I used to be in the food industry and touching cash/wiping your face is a big NO NO when handling food. Sorry Ray but I will not be returning to your establishment.
Awesome every time!
Amazing food. Great local business. Shwarma is sooooo goood
All around amazing. If you like Mezza, take a step up to Ray's.
Our hands down go to place for sharwarma when in Halifax , the quality of the food is only matched by how friendly and welcoming the staff is .
Yummy Food
Amazing dishes with huge portions and wonderful flavors. I had the veggie combo and it's about three meals in one! Great for takeout.
I find the Burnside location to be better. Haven't had the best experiences here.
Fast service and good food on the go!
The best shawarma I’ve ever had! Everything is really high quality, and well made. The portions are really generous for a great price.
A place where you can go and eat and actually be full. They treat you like family and the prices are amazing. I love going here and highly recommend it to anyone!
Not a giant donair fan even though I live in NS; I find they are a big, soggy mess 99% of the time. Not at Ray's though! They've got donairs down to a science and they are delicious. Best donair I've had in Halifax! The two guys working behind the counter are quick & friendly; great service. Nov 25, 2021: Seems there are some new faces at the Bayer's Lake location. As with any change, there are some growing pains. My usually delicious donair was not so delicious today, the meat was tough (weird for minced meat), kinda cold and the sauce seemed thinner/oilier than normal with less flavor. Overall disappointing, but I'll chalk it up to an off day. I believe in leaving constructive feedback, so I'm not going to change my score until I get a second bad donair.
Great Kafta wrap.
Absolutely deeeeelish!
Great food
food is delicious!!!
Very delicious!
Had a shawarma roll today but it wasn't tasty as I expected. Was too much sour taste and too salty but I like Lebanese food.
Great food. Great ppl
Fantastic food. Highly recommended! Service was quick and friendly
I love Ray's! The food is amazing, portions are huge and the service is second to none! Hady and crew are superstars.
Dine in
This is my Favorite place to grab lunch in Burnside. Service is good, food is awesome, portions are big, pricing is very reasonable. I love Rays!
I come in regularly for the shawarma. Great food and worth the money. If there were one small critism I would say that a couple employees make the wrap too small as compared to the owner and original staff. All in all still 5 stars though
I have been looking for a good Lebanese place for so long and THIS. IS. IT!!! such a huge plate and incredible flavors! Will definitely be returning for more!
Always amazing. Great staff very friendly, highly recommend.
food was alright but the guy working there was pretty cranky and got my order wrong multiple times.
Home made delicious labanese cuisine. Like it!
Awesome food served by some pretty awesome folks.
bad food discasting imposible to eat never again
Food is great but I just paid $3 for a can of Pepsi. Yes $3.
Very good, fast and cordial. Could have given five stars but it has still scope for improvement, so will keep it at 4
It is good but quite expensive
I ordered the beef Shawarma plate and it was great. It came with a lot of different sides, and every one of them was fantastic. Although I do have to say, I did come for the Shawarma, and the beef was incredible LOL. Service was helpful and friendly, and the price was very good. The portions were also very large!
First off the service was top tier, very friendly and helpful. The food was delicious and the portion sizes were larger than expected. The prices are on par with other Lebanese restaurants but with the large portion sizes it is really a good bang for your buck. Highly recommend trying Ray's if you are a fan of Lebanese food!
Awesome food , Great staff.
Love it here they are the best food is delicious and customer service is awesome ❤????
Not bad. But it is not real medeterranian lebanon food. It is with Canadian twist.
EXCELLENT TASTE & QUALITY. Big portions @ low Prices.their garlic sauce is yummmm...
Great chicken kebabs
Catering service by Rays Lebanese Cuisine for weddings, events, corporate parties and more Best Lebanese food in Halifax. Always fresh ingredients and friendly staff.
I used to go here quite a bit. I am now finding the quality of food is slipping. Might try it again before the new year and report back
The best Lebanese restaurant ever, the staff is outstanding and the food is out of this world, I hope we had a Ray’s in Kentucky ????????
Always great food. The best garlic sauce.
Amazing food
I have since dropped my 5 star review to a 2 start because he has been shamelessly overcharging me for my orders. I came in once and only wanted a plate with fattoush salad, tabouleh, chicken, and baba ganoush, and he charged me $17.50 for getting LESS FOOD (meaning no potatoes or rice which normally comes with your order which I find to be way too much food). Tonight I came in just for a takeout tabouleh salad alone (yes, JUST tabouleh), and he overcharged the same $17.50 again!
Delicious.
The portions are very big and the prices quite low. However, I find the food a bit greasy. The donair is very good and so is the hummus. The falafel lacks flavor.
We got the Lebanese food from Ray’s through SkipTheDishes. It was our second time to get their food, never been to Rays but their food always surprised me!!! This time we got 2 can dine meal, it came with all the grills, giant shrimp plate and chicken plate (there’s a couple options for the meat) everything on the plate was so tasty! Love their lamb, chicken kabob, shrimp, potatoes and hummus!!! Their yogurt on the shrimp was so good!! Definitely will order again and again or even go visit the restaurant. Can’t wait to try more food there!
Great meal, also has free WiFi
I have eaten here 3 times and I love their shwarmas...BUT, and it's a big but, Someone is not washing their hands here! My husband and I both ended up with a 'gastrointestinal complaint' after eating here November 2015. I will never eat here again, the thought of someone not washing their hands after defecating sickens me.
The shawarma was good, but the falafel was maybe few days old and chewy.
Quantities are good, veggies are good, I think they need to work on the shawerma recipe as a middle eastern knowing what does a real shawerma tastes, it’s flavourless to middle eastern standards.
Highest rating, you simply have to go there.
Great food! Worth the stop.
Amazing store, friendly staff, and very clean! Would recommend to everyone and anyone. Will return again.
Their plates are the best taste and value for your money. Ray's will put a smile on your face.
Amazing vegetarian options, with exceptional quality. The food is always fresh and the portions are huge!
Falafel were cold and hard as rock. Hummus was too salty. Staff were very friendly and portions were large.
Service was swift and the food was delicious
I tried Rays for the first time today, ordered the Mixed plate, and it was incredible! The dish came with so many items and they were all delicious. I'll definitely be returning and would recommend.
Awesome food! And huge portions. Food was not as warm as it could of been. Staff is really nice.
Dinner
Excellent food!
Foood was awful but good staff .. got my refund went at 6 pm and food was stale as its prepared at 10-11 am
Best Lebanese food around !!!! You betterbe hungry, lots of food !!
Delivery
Need to set your warmer at 250 but beyond that the food was delicious (best I've had in a long time) and nothing a microwave couldn't fix.
Awesome spot for lunch or a quick dinner in Bayer's Lake! Fresh and delicious food, big portions, great service and very clean and modern inside.
Outstanding Lebanese cuisine, and much of the menu is gluten free!
We picked up supper from Ray's for the first time tonight. I ordered the chicken shawarma combo plate - I highly recommend! Large portions at a reasonable price. I'll definitely order this delicious dish again.
Amazing
One of my favorite restaurant in Halifax I love it best Lebanese food in town!!!
I went with a group of friends for lunch , the food was delicious. Thank you Chef Hady for everything
Great lunch
Great food. If you order a platter, you get more food than most will be able to eat in one sitting.
Excellent food, service, and dairy and soy free! Verrrry chilly so wear a sweater, & music is a little loud.
Some of the best shawarma in the city.
Great food, and everything is so fresh. Love eating there. And staff are great
I ordered a takeout shawarma combo plate the guy was acting like he wasn't interested to serve us. He wouldn't even ask me what vegetables and add on's i needed. After he made the order. He jus left the box on the table, so i asked for a plastic bag. He just throwed it on the table. Very poor customer service. I would never go to this place again. Dartmouth location
Delicious shawarma
Always great food
So good.
Generous portions!
I would eat here everyday if I could. The food is amazing and the staff is always very friendly.
Worst restaurant ever! The food was cold! And the shvarma is not even real shvarma it's just a piece of dried up chicken. The patatos taste like my dogs sh#t The rice not cooked all the way And the Humus dont even get me started on that The employee's have obviously never tasted real shvarma and falafel and hummus because in there restaurant you can call shvarma anything you want but what you have is not shvarma
Excellent food, excellent price, and excellent customer service! :)
Great home style lebanese food
Foods are nothing special, just like your average Lebanese restaurant. Good prices and portions tho!
Authentic Lebanese food, very tasty, recommend you try it.
I eat there once or twice a week, whenever I feel like treating myself to good food. The food portions are enormous, one of the best spots to eat in bayers lake with hardly any wait time. Home made style food served at the speed and prices of the fast food chains, how can you beat that ? My favorite is the chicken shawarma although I've tried the beef and it's good too. I also get the kibbeh special when they have that from time to time, it's delicious and authentic. Keep up the good work and thank you for coming to bayers lake !
Clean, friendly, and massive combo plate for $9. And your 11th combo plate is free. I'll be going back.
Good food big portions
I wish rice in the Halifax location was the same as in Burnside store. Otherwise 5 star
These guys serve great food at good prices. Perfect for a grab and go lunch.
Big chicken shawarma plate! (Although next time I'll skip the veggies with eggplant...I don't like eggplant). Everything else was yummy!
Always delish!
Rays chicken shawarma is amazing. Enough said.
So glad to find a Ray's that's easier for me to get to. Food is amazing as always. Simply the best tasting and best value in Metro.
Best food around, prices are cheap and servings ate HUGE! You can't beat the taste.
impossible to eat. very bad. never again. waste of money and time.
Poor customer service. Not good Shawarma. Will not return.
My husband and I love this place!!! I actually miss it when we are away. First place we head to when we get back!
Not my cup of tea but generous portions.
Best Shawarma!!
Delicious!! Every time ????
Wow was thefood great! The platter size was huge for the cost, and the staff were so friendly. Definitely going here again!
Awesome Food!
Great place. Big portions at reasonable prices. Fast service!
If you're a vegetarian and want a very good and very filling option go for the regular Falafel wrap. We were lucky enough to order just as new and fresh falafel were coming out of the kitchen! Soft falafel - check Tasty - check Crunchy pickled turnip - check Spicy and smooth filling - check Soggy at the bottom - not at all It was literally the best falafel wrap I have had in Halifax in the last few years. For the price you can't get a better choice for your vegetarian dinner!
Dinner
(Translated) Very rich good portions (Original) Muy rico buenas porciones
We were the only ones in the place but it was after 8 on weeknight: food was fresh and delicious especially the lamb skewers! Owner was super friendly !
Love Ray's, excellent food.
Staff was friendly and helpful and it was clean. Quantity was more then I could eat but the potatoes were just warm. Pita bread was stale. The shawarma was not fresh off the spit, was pre-shaved from a container so was not crispy. Rest of the food was ok, if not for the humus and garlic sauce I would not have eaten it.
The food was amazing and the staff was super helpful.
Love the food. Fresh. Fast. Friendly servers.
Favorite place to eat in the city.
great food!
Great food!! Excellent Service. Enjoy going there everytime.
Never had a bad meal at Ray's! Definitely one of my favourite places to have fresh and healthy Lebanese food.
Yum. Amazing homemade food. Huge portions and reasonable prices.
Food is okay. But both my friend and I got food poisoning after eating here today.
Good Lebanese food
The chicken plate with everything and garlic sauce is insanely good.
I eat there at least once a week. These fine folks are making some of the tastiest, freshest, and healthiest Lebanese cuisine in HRM.
Absolutely delicious, large portions for a good price. I can never eat the whole plate. So I always have leftovers for later. Hady is a great guy, the rest of the staff are really nice. I showed up after they closed by a few minutes. They still unlocked the door and filled my order.
It is pricy I paid 14,** for falafel that is crazy
Great place, great food and decent portions
Every time I've been to Ray's the food has been fresh and delicious! The staff is very friendly, and great at answering any questions about the menu. If I could, I would eat here every day.
Great choices
I enjoyed the beef shwarma. Great value for food. As another said, you could make two meals from combo plate. Rays continues the tradition for great food.
Awesome food! So happy Rays is in Bayer's Lake. Easily the best lunch in the area.
Double lamb plates were to die for.
Excellent food, friendly staff, and generous portions. They also gave my small child pita with hummus for free own their own initiative when I took my family. Easily the best Lebanese in Clayton Park.
Delicious food. Stick to the chicken shawarma or falafel and you'll never be disappointed
Very good food.
Always, always good. It's a very must stop on every trip home to NS.
I really really love this place So underrated. Best in the city If you love garlic, it's to die for
This is a great spot! Friendly service, great food and very fairly priced.
(Translated) There are plenty of dining options with restaurant cleanliness and Halal eating (Original) يوجد الكثير من خيارات الطعام مع نظافة المطعم والاكل الحلال
I had the chicken shawarma wrap here and it was delicious. It's obvious that the owners care about the quality of the food. The ingredients were all fresh and flavourful, and the weak was very filling while only costing $8. A great choice for lunch or supper.
Amazing and good prices
Best Lebanese around. We got to try a bit of everything and it was simply delicious, I can't even pick a favorite! Excellent friendly and fast service, very clean place, and the food was amazing. We will be back!
Fresh and tasty
Just don’t waist your time going anywhere else. Just don’t.
Really good
Great tasty and plenty of it!
The best Lebanese food in the city!
Great food, better people.
Good food, quality and quantity
A great for dining and take out with large portions, clean, friendly and awesome service. I will definitely recommend this place and return as a regular customer.
Food was really bad :/
Food was okay, however potatoes were cold and chicken shawarma was precut in warming trays that made it a bit tough and soggy rather than nice and crispy.
Excellent quality shawarma!!!
Just awful, my kofta's were so dry..and he ripped us off of 2.75 for a water.We said no to the water and he added it to our bill..Be careful..Food was just gross..
Great place to relax and enjoy some delicious food! Great staff and excellent customer service. Definitely would recommend this place to friends!
I have tried many Lebanese restaurants before, but this one is the best by far. Me and my coworkers decided to give It a try and each one of us ordered a different plate. The portions are very generous and the food was very fresh. They gained new returning customers today. Chicken shawarma was the best and my friend had the mix platter wow that was amazing! Awesome customer service and the cleanest by far
The food is delicious, large portions for reasonable prices, and the staff is helpful and friendly!
A group of us went to Susie Lake location. A lot were charged $3 for water whether they got it or not. Why do you charge that much for water. I ordered lamb but am sure it was beef which cost $3 less. The food is good but dealing with customers when paying the bill is frustrating
This place should be fine dinning because the quality of care and time in all the foods were amazing. Omg the charcoal cooked eggplant baba ghanoush is spectacular! The prices were super low for the quality. Even though were visiting from Montreal, well try to come back again!
Have been seeing their new advertising and was in the area and figure I'd give it a try as I haven't been having much luck with other Lebanese places. Safe to say I was looking for a new Lebanese home for food. Tried the falafel plate, was greeted with good and quick service. But as soon as I sat down to eat I noticed everything on my plate was the same temperature, cold. Falafels stone cold and hard as a rock, also really lacking any flavour at all. Both types of rice stone cold, was in a rush and didn't have time to gripe and argue about food temperature but figure it should be known. Only part of the plate I really ate was the salad. Happened tonight around 5:45 in Bayer's lake, i did consider going back up to ask to microwave my plate but everyone was hiding out back and I didn't want to microwave my salad, other option was to what, get more cold food?
I ordered for delivery, and if I was in restaurant I would have sent my plate back. My Boyfriend's lamb was great however I got the shrimp and it was so dry and overcooked I could not eat it. The texture was awful. I'm giving three stars since the lamb and veggies were great, otherwise it would be less.
Excellent food at great prices highly recommend the beef shawarma
Yummy food for a great price! My go-to for shawarma in the HRM.
Yummy shawarma!
Fantastic experience this evening! The food was delicious, the portions were great/felt generous, the atmosphere was trendy while still being classy, and the staff were super friendly! I highly recommend giving them a go. They will be top of my list for top-notch Lebanese dishes.
I'll give it another try. The first time, I had a chicken shawarma to go but it does not travel well and I wasn't satified with the portion. We'll see.
Burnside location...if a health inspector walked in for a temp check he would be shut down immediately. Nice guy but it is definately the worst food I've had in NS. Go to Mezza. I don't need a reply, there is no excuse for cold food and no excuse for not shaving the meats to order.
This Ray's location is not run by Ray himself, and those who knew Ray's in Scotia Square may be disappointed in the relative blandness of the food. It's tasty, however, and great value. The decor is hideous, so not recommended for anyone wanting any atmosphere.
Delicious food and great prices!
Excellent quality, wide choice of health conscious and vegetarian foods
Ray's is 100% going to be the right decision if you can't decide what you want right now... Super friendly staff, delicious food, fair prices. Don't think, just let those garlic potatoes tell you what you NEED
The food is really good here. We ordered both chicken and beef shawarma’s and they were delicious. The staff were super friendly. Especially the head chef took good care of us. Giving it a 5 star for both taste and service!!
Great! Had a Donair, Stuffed Grape Leaves, Tabouleh and San Peregrino. Mmm.
Great food...great & friendly staff!
Without a doubt the best place for a quick meal in Bayer's Lake.
Ate at Rays today. Had the falafal plate fully loaded. Reasonably priced, super fresh and delicious. Staff was incredibly friendly and welcoming.
Always an amazing meal. And the staff are amazing to
Good authentic Lebanese food, reasonable prices and good portions.
My first stop on returning to Canada was Ray's for supper. Delicious, healthy, fresh food at a good price. One of my favorite places to dine, repeatedly voted Best Schwarma in Halifax. Love this place.
never had a bad meal at Ray's. Hady and the staff are great.
Chicken shawarma is fantastic here. Portion is large enough to share.
The food was exactly what I was expecting, and the portions were generous. Went for lunch and couldn't finish it. A word of caution for celiacs though, the server pointed out all the gluten free options but still offered pita with the dish. My wife definitely got some cross contamination. They advertise a gluten free donair but the signage specifies that it's only gluten free donair meat.
Amazing food friendly staff good location
Mixed plate. My go to Lebanese restaurant
Food was cold and not very good
With lots of great Lebanese places in the city this is definitely a stand out. It truly is a case of the 'hole in the wall places have the beat food'! Portion sizes are huge, and the selection of items is massive. Most items are actually cooked to order as well, so do be aware it is not like Mezza where you will be in and out in a few seconds. If you are really hungry the large combination plate will fill up even the hungriest person!
Just ate here for the first time but not the last. Freshly prepared food with no additives or preservatives. Best chicken schwarma made with chicken breast. Huge portions. Definitely recommend.
Great food, very well priced, really good portions (moast plates can feed 2) and really good service. Takeout is also a good option from here - lots of healthy options as well.
Always great food and friendly service. Best garlic sauce around!
Always great!
Meal type
For $16.00 ,you don't even get a full piece of pita bread. Isn't fattoush usually topped with pita chips ?
I've tried almost everything on menu .... staff is amazing, food delicious freshly made in store with fresh produce each day. I go a few times a week ... so much for such a great price ... very generous helpings.
The best food and service
I ordered from here via Doordash. The food was the best Middle Eastern food I have eaten in Halifax. And it wasn't too expensive. Great food and value for money.
So good
Best Lebanese food in the HRM.
So sooo good.
Fantastic taste and very generous with the portions
Best food
I loved it, at the moment I stepped in that store, I received a warming welcome from the employees. I did not even know what food I would get because I am not so familiar with Lebanese cuisine. However, the ladies who served us were very gentle, and besides explaining what products they provide, they provided even the ingredients in which food patiently. I felt a very healthy workplace environment which makes them very happy working there, the foods I ordered were amazing and very tasty. In addition, the customer service was fantastic. I truly recommend.
Meal type
Best shawarma wrap in town! Friendly service.
I'm impressed. Plates filled with a variety of texture, color and flavors. Well done. Lovely presentation. Leaves you feeling like you've just experienced good food,. Not typical take out. This is a "find"